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PostSubject: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeMon Mar 30, 2009 12:14 pm

So i'm in need of a curved core and i've heard that boiling water and pvc works well, i'm wondering if there is a technique to this or morelikely how/where i pour the water, etc, since i've not done this before..
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeMon Mar 30, 2009 2:23 pm

from what I've read/heard, you cap one end of the PVC, pour in boiling water, cap the other end, let it sit for a few minutes, then bend it and hold it in that shape somehow while you cool it off. I'd suggest doing this in a bath tub. Also you can fill a tub with the hottest water and lest it sit in there for a few minutes and then bend it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeMon Mar 30, 2009 2:31 pm

I have done this one time

I used the rails of a porch to get the bend after capping one end and poured boiled water in the other end and repeated as needed. that worked great however it was a very hot day.

Marty bend his by just holding the bend for hour and hours crazy kid!
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeTue Mar 31, 2009 3:55 pm

Marty is a beast, lol. But you can use boiling water (wear gloves), put in the back seat of a car when its 100 deg. out for a day or two, use hot sand. Pick your poison.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeTue Mar 31, 2009 4:22 pm

do you know of any way to get it to hold a bend? could i just duck tape the ends close s othat it bends like a bow after i've added boiling water?
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeTue Mar 31, 2009 5:32 pm

Duct tape won't work. The hot water will prevent the adhesive from working and will flow out the bottom. Use a PVC endcap, and pour boiling water in the core. Bend gently along multiple points. You may need to repeat this process of replacing the hot water to get the curve you desire. Keep in mind that the more extreme the curve, the less structurally sound the core will become. ^.^
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeWed Apr 01, 2009 8:30 am

for a truly excellent curved core, create the exact shape out of a lightweight material, like wood or foam, and then wrap it tightly with fiberglass and epoxy. Kits for this can be obtained at Lowe's for around $20. Seek wisdom from older and wiser dagorhirrim on how the process works. Bent PVC is wicked cool too, just don't take your curved PVC weapons to an event and expect them to live. Sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeWed Apr 01, 2009 2:56 pm

A curved weapon will last a long while even through frequent use, but it won't las *as long* as a straight blade of PVC.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeWed Apr 01, 2009 9:08 pm

I have a curved PVC blade that is pushing 3 years old. Only repairs was taking it from hot glue to dap.

For a quick way to do this, get a metal tea pot. The kind that wistles. Get it whistling reall good, then let the steam fill up your PVC. Ofcourse, you still need an end cap on hte PVC.

If you don't have access to the tea pot. Take a normal stove top pan, and cover the top with aluminium foil. Cut out a small triangle of foil on one side, and let it steam up. Then use it just like the tea pot.

Steam works better then boiling water. Boiling water only need to cool down. Steam must cool down, recondense, then continue to cool down. Retains the heat longer on the PVC.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 2:29 am

I never thought of it that way, an interesting point, the way steam loses a good portion of its heat into the surrounding PVC when it changes states.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 3:30 am

brilliant ideas, all of you. thanks for all the thought, im planning on making one of these:

Bending PVC Functional_Swords_Sinbad_Scimitar_Swor_2006_92

as a red of course
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 6:06 pm

I was thinking about trying to make a sword similar to that at some point. If you do make it, let me know how it turns out :]
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 7:13 pm

I'll try and take pictures along the way this time, i usually forget, lol
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 7:35 pm

I'm not sure how good you are with working with heat but electric stoves work wonders. I made a 6 ft dai-katana with one.

-Take the PVC and plan how much of a bend you want.

-Next have the stove turned to a heat where it's not too hot but not too cold (med-med hi)

-Run the PVC above the stove burner, not touching it though just right above it.
(I would recommending holding the PVC with a dish towel or something to protect your hand)

-While the PVC is hot and flexible bend it into desired shape slowly, so you can get the right curve.

-When cooling DO NOT use cold water or any substance. let the PVC cool at room tempature naturally.

Here's a picture of my friend with my Dai-katana I made.

Bending PVC Shirokage
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 9:01 pm

very nice sword. did u have a gas stove or electric?
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 9:58 pm

Electric, I think gas would be bad. Flames + plastic= bad times all around...unless you're a pyro.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 11:10 pm

well there in lies the problem of me not wanting to burn down the house, yet still bend the core...
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2009 12:04 am

Sadness, yeah I'd say you can use my stove but you're at rolla. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2009 12:10 am

so true, lol
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2009 10:18 pm

I has an electric stove (upstairs from the forge of course) If you come by on a wednesday, you're welcome to use it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeSat Apr 04, 2009 4:06 pm

Constantine if you want help bending some PVC just let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: Bending PVC   Bending PVC Icon_minitimeSat Apr 04, 2009 5:50 pm

i have just used the boiling water method and so far i can attest that it works very well, thanks all! i'll be posting pix of this experiment later!
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